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German德语: zerluderten und pludrigen Hosenteufel

English英语 translation: the satanic and abominable fashion for baggy breeches






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German德语词条或短语:zerluderten und pludrigen Hosenteufel
English英语翻译:the satanic and abominable fashion for baggy breeches
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German德语至English英语翻译 [专业]
历史 / Renaissance fashion
German德语词条或短语: zerluderten und pludrigen Hosenteufel
Hello all,
This is a piece written by a German pastor, Andreas Musculus, decrying the fashion excesses of his time.

"Dieser verschwenderische Umgang mit wertvollem Material widerspricht Anstand und Moral! Und mit dieser Meinung bin ich nicht allein. Sonst hätte meine Schrift wider den ***„zerluderten und pludrigen Hosenteufel“*** nicht einen derartigen Erfolg und die ehrbaren Obrigkeiten auf den Plan gerufen. "

Does anyone have any suggestions for this/know of an English title? This is the same translation that has no room for footnotes or German titles plus explanations - it's a script - so I need a way to render it in English.

I actually found a reference for this - the actual piece he wrote is called "Vom Hosenteufel" (Andreas Musculus: Vom Hosenteufel. (Predigt) 1555; Frankfurt an der Oder: Eichorn 1556; erneut 1630; hrsg. von Max Osborn, Halle 1894.), if that helps at all!

Many thanks!
Hilary Davies
英国
Local time: 03:08
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Hilary Davies (asker): 13:36 Jul 24, 2005: That's excellent, Andrew! I hadn't ever seen "Luder" translated as "abominable" before - i only know it in the sense of "depraved", usually for a female...now I come to think of it, "depraved" is not a bad word either... ;-)

the satanic and abominable fashion for baggy trousers fit only to be worn by a eunuch in a harem
说明:
Luder – abomination (Muret/sanders)
zerludert – abominable
Pluderhose – harem pants / Turkish trousers (Collins)

verschwenderische Umgang mit wertvollem Material – waste of valuable material


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Note added at 1 hr 27 mins (2005-07-24 13:44:19 GMT)
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Re \'Luder\': As your current batch of writers are pre-modern (as well as pre-PC) I looked in my 1910 edition of Muret/Sanders :-)
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Andrew Swift
英国
Local time: 03:08
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Thank you all VERY much for your help and explanations - MUCH appreciated!
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所提供的全部%1翻译如下:
3 +2the satanic and abominable fashion for baggy trousers fit only to be worn by a eunuch in a harem
Andrew Swift
4note on the pluderhoseMario Marcolin
4 -1The devil in your pants
Wolf Brosius


  

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31分钟   信心度: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 同仁同意(净值): +2
the satanic and abominable fashion for baggy trousers fit only to be worn by a eunuch in a harem


说明:
Luder – abomination (Muret/sanders)
zerludert – abominable
Pluderhose – harem pants / Turkish trousers (Collins)

verschwenderische Umgang mit wertvollem Material – waste of valuable material


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Note added at 1 hr 27 mins (2005-07-24 13:44:19 GMT)
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Re \'Luder\': As your current batch of writers are pre-modern (as well as pre-PC) I looked in my 1910 edition of Muret/Sanders :-)

Andrew Swift
英国
Local time: 03:08
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Thank you all VERY much for your help and explanations - MUCH appreciated!

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同意 jerrie: Pluderhose (16 / 17 Jh) trunk hose, trunks, galligaskins, nach Hohenadel!
21分钟
  -> 'galligaskins'...superb word! Thanks for that, Jerrie.

同意 Mario Marcolin: I agree on the adjectives though I think the pluderhose -> breeches
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2小时   信心度: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 同仁同意(净值): -1
The devil in your pants


说明:
An old euphemism for lust etc. referring to male genitals; zerludert and pludrig are thrown in for rhyme and effect.
Cheers
Wolf

Wolf Brosius
南非
Local time: 05:08
母语: German德语, English英语
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不同意 xxxUSER00230: I doubt it in this case; the first part of the sentence talks about the waste of material, though the disapproval of the fashion may have had (as is usual with fashions) a sense that it was obscene/improper
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7小时   信心度: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
note on the pluderhose


说明:
rather than harem pants pluderhose very long breeches cut to expose inner lining.
something like this:
http://www.gandiva.de/18_Pluderhose_deutsch_gross.275x418.jp...

Mario Marcolin
瑞典
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母语: Swedish瑞典语, English英语
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