German德语: flaneurEnglish英语 translation: circulated/mingled among the guests, frequently returning to ...  KudoZ The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators ... More  |
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| 词条（来自下列问题） | | German德语词条或短语： | flaneur | | English英语翻译： | circulated/mingled among the guests, frequently returning to ... | | 输入者： | silfilla |
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国际组织/开发/合作 / description of diplomatic reception | | German德语词条或短语： flaneur | "Unter anderem entspannte sich, um ein wenig name dropping zu betreiben, Bundeswirtschaftsminister Wolfgang Clement in der Menge. Immer wieder ***zog es den Flaneur*** in den Ballsaal, auf dessen Bühne ein Salonorchester musizierte und Sänger russischer Lieder begleitete."
Hello all,
Do you think that the "Flaneur" referred to in the sentence above is Wolfgang Clement? Or there another meaning to this sentence that I'm missing? ("flaneur" in English is quite negative, so I'd be surprised if it was a reference to Clement, but then I don't know what else it could mean!).
Many thanks!
Hilary.
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| | 写给提问者或来自提问者的留言Hilary Davies (asker): 13:08 Jun 25, 2005: Thanks! The definition I found for "flaneur" was v. negative (layabout, loafer), so I wasn't sure! I think rephrasing it is the best idea!
Sandy A Pirie: 13:09 Jun 25, 2005: If you consider the French for the activity as explained in Collins - flanerie - 'aimless strolling or lounging' it's not so negative; Clement just aimlessly 'circulated' among the people present. -
Sandy A Pirie: 13:19 Jun 25, 2005: I'd advise against the use of the French word anyway as there are enough others in English for the activity - the German 'flanieren' simply suggests a degree of sophisticated elegance of attire, movement, gentle acknowledgements of a passing smile etc. -
silfilla: 13:35 Jun 25, 2005: Nice explanation, Sandy ;-) -
Sandy A Pirie: 14:25 Jun 25, 2005: I'm out of space as I'm not in this race, but I meant that when ANY German uses the word 'flanieren', he/she employs the 'normal' term used for the activity since the 19th cent.; 'Flaneur' is the corresp. noun as 'Flanierender' isn't generally used. -
Hilary Davies (asker): 14:52 Jun 25, 2005: Fabulous, thank you all very much for all this help - I am travelling this week and don't have all the dictionaries I normally do, so it's much appreciated!
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| | circulated among the guests, frequently returning to ... | 说明：
yes, Flaneur does refer to WClement and is meant to convey that he moved around and had a good time
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-06-25 13:06:13 GMT)
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The author might have used flaneur to convey that Clement is not stiff and stuck up and knows how to enjoy himself (flaneur itself is from Baudelaire)
The flâneur is the stroller, the pedestrian who finds delight and ... crowd in
the centre of the metropolis is essential to the flâneur. Baudelaire writes: ...
www.man.ac.uk/sociologyonline/vccc/1_2_Benjamin_Flanerie/fl...
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Note added at 9 mins (2005-06-25 13:07:47 GMT)
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\"The intoxication to which the flaneur surrenders is the intoxication of the ...
modernity -- \"Benjamin regard Baudelaire as the figure who gives voice to ...
www.eng.fju.edu.tw/Literary_Criticism/postmodernism/postmo_...
Thus Vertov stands half-way between Baudelaire\'s flâneur and computer user: no
... From Baudelaire\'s flâneur strolling through physical streets we move to ...
www.manovich.net/DOCS/navigable_space.doc
or perhaps: strolled among the guests, ...
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Note added at 11 mins (2005-06-25 13:09:24 GMT)
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using the French spelling of flaneur -- flâneur -- might eliminate the negative connotation
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Note added at 30 mins (2005-06-25 13:28:04 GMT)
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or (thanks to Kim and Ian H.):
*mingled among the guests, ...* |
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| 提问者给回答者的留言I used this word for word! Many thanks!
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| the stroller
说明：
he was strolling about
(and here, of course, it is not the Kinderwagen but rather the
meaning of Spaziergänger)
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Note added at 9 mins (2005-06-25 13:07:30 GMT)
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time and again he was strolling into the ballroom
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| circulated among the guests, frequently returning to ...
说明：
yes, Flaneur does refer to WClement and is meant to convey that he moved around and had a good time
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-06-25 13:06:13 GMT)
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The author might have used flaneur to convey that Clement is not stiff and stuck up and knows how to enjoy himself (flaneur itself is from Baudelaire)
The flâneur is the stroller, the pedestrian who finds delight and ... crowd in
the centre of the metropolis is essential to the flâneur. Baudelaire writes: ...
www.man.ac.uk/sociologyonline/vccc/1_2_Benjamin_Flanerie/fl...
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Note added at 9 mins (2005-06-25 13:07:47 GMT)
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\"The intoxication to which the flaneur surrenders is the intoxication of the ...
modernity -- \"Benjamin regard Baudelaire as the figure who gives voice to ...
www.eng.fju.edu.tw/Literary_Criticism/postmodernism/postmo_...
Thus Vertov stands half-way between Baudelaire\'s flâneur and computer user: no
... From Baudelaire\'s flâneur strolling through physical streets we move to ...
www.manovich.net/DOCS/navigable_space.doc
or perhaps: strolled among the guests, ...
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Note added at 11 mins (2005-06-25 13:09:24 GMT)
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using the French spelling of flaneur -- flâneur -- might eliminate the negative connotation
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Note added at 30 mins (2005-06-25 13:28:04 GMT)
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or (thanks to Kim and Ian H.):
*mingled among the guests, ...*
| | 提问者给回答者的留言| I used this word for word! Many thanks! |
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