Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

dopinggeduide stoffen

English translation:

substances designated as doping agents

Added to glossary by Ken Cox
May 4, 2005 18:56
19 yrs ago
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Dutch term

dopinggeduide stoffen

Dutch to English Science Medical: Pharmaceuticals anti-doping
Wat wordt er bedoeld met 'dopinggeduide' stoffen? Kan ik dat gewoon vertalen als 'doping substances'?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 substances designated as doping substances
4 +1 banned substances / illegal stimulants

Discussion

Ken Cox May 6, 2005:
The other common occurrance of 'dopinggeduide' is in combination with 'middelen', and 'doping agents' is more common in English google hits than 'doping substances' (as in 'doping agents and methods), so I used 'agents' for the glossary entry.
Hello Tina - I find that weird, 'doping substances' appears several times, especially under the Phase II section.
Non-ProZ.com May 4, 2005:
Thanks Siobhan. NeCeDo is actually one of the partners in the Security System. But the word 'doping substances' does not appear on their English web page.
correction: 'proof' should read 'prove' (it's been a long day!)
I think you can safely use 'doping substances' Take a look at http://www.necedo.nl/nzvt (English pages), it should proof to be a useful site for your translation in general.
Non-ProZ.com May 4, 2005:
Sorry, I had just posted another question with lots of context and forgot to repeat it. A number of agencies (sport, anti-doping, and the branch organization of the nutritional supplement industry) have set up a "Security System for Nutritional Supplements in Elite Sport". The aim of this system is to test, label, and publish the ingredients of nutritional supplements so that athletes can avoid getting positive dope tests from these supplements. Throughout the collaboration agreement, they use the term 'dopinggeduide stoffen' that might be in some supplements on the market. Here is a typical sentence: "Het gebruik van dopinggeduide stoffen en/of verboden methoden, het aanzetten tot het gebruik ervan en de verstrekking van dopinggeduide middelen is verboden binnen de sport".

I'm wondering if the word 'geduide' has any special significance and if there is any reason why I can't just translate that as 'doping substances'.
A little more context (sentence) would help.

Proposed translations

+2
1 hr
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substances designated as doping substances

That's how I would interpret it. The google hits (600+ for 'dopinggeduide' alone, 400+ combined with 'stoffen') use the term as though it does not require any explanation. I suspect it comes originally from some sort of statutory text.
As a doping substance is (effectively) by definition a substance that appears on a list of designated doping substances, the translation 'doping substance' sounds OK to me unless there's some contextual reason to use 'designated'.
Peer comment(s):

agree Francina : containing banned substances
1 hr
agree Deborah do Carmo : I also read it as "designated" - I think it might well be necessary to translate it as if there is a listing "doping/substances" in general would be too wide.
6 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I'll go with 'doping substances' as Siobhan also suggested. 'Banned substances' would also work, except in sentences such as 'banned substances are probibited in sport', so I think 'doping substances' is better for this particular text. Thanks to all for your input!"
+1
5 hrs

banned substances / illegal stimulants

Strangely enough, the word "doping" or even "dope" is not used very much here in the UK. We tend to speak of "banned substances" or "illegal stimulants".

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Note added at 14 hrs 5 mins (2005-05-05 09:01:44 GMT)
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\'Prohibited substances\' is another option.
Peer comment(s):

agree Deborah do Carmo : I like banned substances because it is more restrictive than doping substances and gets around having to use designated as such, banned implies a listing setting out which substances are classified that way
2 hrs
Thanks Deborah.
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