Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
hoofdkrijgsmachtrabbijn b.d.
English translation:
Emeritus Chief Military Rabbi
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Textpertise
Jul 9, 2009 18:16
14 yrs ago
Dutch term
hoofdkrijgsmachtrabbijn b.d.
Dutch to English
Social Sciences
Religion
The title of an individual contributing to a report
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | Emeritus Chief Military Rabbi | Textpertise |
4 +1 | jewish military head chaplain ret. (or retd.) | Jack den Haan |
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Jul 13, 2009 09:29: Textpertise Created KOG entry
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Emeritus Chief Military Rabbi
Retired rabbis are usually called Emeritus Rabbis. Capitalisation should be used throughout the title in English. I take the terminology from the Israel Defence Forces usage which can be found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Rabbinate
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Note added at 17 hrs (2009-07-10 11:24:51 GMT)
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Not specifically Israeli: This site refers to a Russian Chief Military Rabbi
http://www.calligraphy.mvk.ru/en/?idx=1256
http://www.labelexpo.ru/2009/eng/news/exhibition/mvk_news.as...
As far as I can ascertain, there has never been a Jewish chief military chaplain in the U.S. army. The highest has been deputy. The highest ranking Jewish chaplain would appear to be called "Senior" as in the following excerpt.
As the Sr Jewish Chaplain in the Armed Forces of the United States I totally disagree with the Author of this article. Apparently the writer is unfamiliar with the Jewish faith as Passover begins at sundown April 8th and is not celebrated the entire day. Another issue is that Passover Eve the Jewish faith commemorates Gods deliverance from bondage in Egypt over three thousand years ago by fasting which is known as “the fast of the 1st born” which was celebrated today till sundown. I commended Chaplain Carver for having chosen this day for it is providential to have occurred as Jews fast the world over. This began more than three thousand years ago. Chaplain Carver is an extremely sensitive individual towards everyones faith beliefs. He demonstrates this constantly not only in words but in deed. The Army and the United States is blessed to have such a caring and decent human being as its Chief of Chaplains. It is a blessing to serve under him.”
Chaplain (COL) Jacob Goldstein
Thus it would appear there has never been a "hoofd" krijgsmachtsrabbijn in the U.S. to be retired.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2009-07-10 12:13:09 GMT)
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The Dutch armed forces DO actually have a hoofdkrijgsmachtsrabbijn. So since they are fairly unique in that sense, I suggest beaufort has the liberty to stick close to the Dutch in the translation which will be more or less an independent one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Rabbinate
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Note added at 17 hrs (2009-07-10 11:24:51 GMT)
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Not specifically Israeli: This site refers to a Russian Chief Military Rabbi
http://www.calligraphy.mvk.ru/en/?idx=1256
http://www.labelexpo.ru/2009/eng/news/exhibition/mvk_news.as...
As far as I can ascertain, there has never been a Jewish chief military chaplain in the U.S. army. The highest has been deputy. The highest ranking Jewish chaplain would appear to be called "Senior" as in the following excerpt.
As the Sr Jewish Chaplain in the Armed Forces of the United States I totally disagree with the Author of this article. Apparently the writer is unfamiliar with the Jewish faith as Passover begins at sundown April 8th and is not celebrated the entire day. Another issue is that Passover Eve the Jewish faith commemorates Gods deliverance from bondage in Egypt over three thousand years ago by fasting which is known as “the fast of the 1st born” which was celebrated today till sundown. I commended Chaplain Carver for having chosen this day for it is providential to have occurred as Jews fast the world over. This began more than three thousand years ago. Chaplain Carver is an extremely sensitive individual towards everyones faith beliefs. He demonstrates this constantly not only in words but in deed. The Army and the United States is blessed to have such a caring and decent human being as its Chief of Chaplains. It is a blessing to serve under him.”
Chaplain (COL) Jacob Goldstein
Thus it would appear there has never been a "hoofd" krijgsmachtsrabbijn in the U.S. to be retired.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2009-07-10 12:13:09 GMT)
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The Dutch armed forces DO actually have a hoofdkrijgsmachtsrabbijn. So since they are fairly unique in that sense, I suggest beaufort has the liberty to stick close to the Dutch in the translation which will be more or less an independent one.
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jewish military head chaplain ret. (or retd.)
http://www.infibeam.com/Books/info/Albert-Isaac-Slomovitz/Th...
http://jta.org/news/article/2006/02/13/13702/Afterquartercen...
http://jta.org/news/article/2006/02/13/13702/Afterquartercen...
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Chris Hopley
: You can probably leave 'military' out. I see Chaplain-in-Chief and Principal Chaplain on this site: http://www.raf.mod.uk/chaplains/whoweare/biogprincipal.cfm
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Thanks, Chris.
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Textpertise
: Source says rabbijn = Rabbi. Jewish by definition. Chaplain is any religion and not only military, also prisons and hospitals. Your solution requires insertion of "Jewish" - Capital J - not in source. Israelis should know :-)
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Israelis probably don't have religious personnel of other beliefs or denominations in their armed services ;;) I would say that 'chaplain' is the more general or maybe even generic term. BTW, 'retired' is the term for officers no longer in active service.
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