Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

percusión directa

English translation:

stored pressure

Added to glossary by Jane Martin
Jul 22, 2019 13:32
4 yrs ago
Spanish term

percusión directa

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Safety
In relation to fire extinguishers in an occupational health and safety document from Mexico for translation to UK English.

“EL CONTRATISTA” antes del inicio de los trabajos deberá establecer la configuración de los almacenes de depósitos para los materiales y herramientas menores, en caso de ser contenedores se protegerán con extintores PQS 09 Kg ***percusión directa ***, deberá contar con una lámpara portátil de emergencia, un botiquín de primeros auxilios, anaqueles tipo rack´s, no mayores a 02 metros de altura, este no deberá contener sustancias o productos químicos de ningún tipo.

TIA
Proposed translations (English)
3 direct pressure

Discussion

Jane Martin (asker) Jul 25, 2019:
Thanks Helena,

This goes well beyond the call of duty but .... now we know.
Helena Chavarria Jul 25, 2019:
I've had a chat with a Spanish man who has a fire extinguisher business and he gave me a lesson! I showed him the question and he confirmed what we thought, the extinguishers are activated by moving a handle and lever and they are the ones you commonly see hanging on walls.

The other type are P.A. (presión adosada).

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/other/698209-e...

https://support.brandbeveiligingshop.be/hc/en-be/articles/36...
Jane Martin (asker) Jul 22, 2019:
Here is one of the examples I found:
Hay ocasiones que podemos observar extintores P.Q.S, en que su agente presurizador o propulsor es CO2, en estos casos se puede percibir que no se mezcla el polvo junto con el CO2, sino que viene con un Catridge lateral o interior el cual mediante un sistema de percusión permite la salida del CO2 al interior del cilindro para presurizar la recámara del extintor.
http://www.faset.cl/blog/tipos-de-extintores-de-incendio/
Jane Martin (asker) Jul 22, 2019:
@ Liz Definitely worth checking. My document does say 'percusion directa' and I have found about four examples of it in Spanish documents. It seems to be related to how the seal is broken. But I am struggling to find anything similar in English. I have found 'percussion pin' ..... just once! Was hoping to find a fire extinguisher expert.
liz askew Jul 22, 2019:
FYI, I haven't come across anything with "percussion":)
liz askew Jul 22, 2019:
Amerex Wheeled Extinguishers
https://www.amerexfire.eu/media/14256/Amerex-Wheeled-Extingu...
est performing dry chemical wheeled fire extinguishers avail- .... Regular Direct Pressure extinguishers with a “quick open- ing” 55 ft3 ... CLASS D Dry Powder.
liz askew Jul 22, 2019:
typo for "presion directa"

ingeniero industrial - DSpace ESPOCH. - Escuela Superior ...
dspace.espoch.edu.ec/bitstream/123456789/5177/1/85T00396.pdf
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by J Aguirre Bustos - ‎2016
11 Jun 2013 - Selección y cantidad de extintores conforme a la norma NFPA10… .... Extintor con presión directa… .... Gi. Masa, en kg de cada uno de los combustibles en el área. Qs ... La Central Térmica Esmeraldas se encuentra ubicada en la ..... obturación y un sistema de percusión, o un sistema de abrir y cerrar con ...

though it does say
sistema de percusion

just checking..

Proposed translations

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direct pressure

These Amerex commercial Direct Pressure extinguishers utilize a 23 ft3 nitrogen cylinder with a “quick opening brass valve” to pressurize and completely discharge the agent cylinder. The compact size and 16" semi-pneumatic tires allow easy maneuvering and operation by one person, through narrow doorways and aisles. A 4" stainless steel fill opening with rugged chrome plated brass cap makes servicing easier. For large hazards choose the 300 lb. ABC or Purple K or 350 lb. Regular Direct Pressure extinguishers with a “quick opening” 55 ft3 nitrogen cylinder. They provide quality and economical fire protection, large volume capacity for extra high hazard areas with single person transport and operation. The 36" X 6" wide steel wheels make movement possible in sandy or soft soil.

http://www.safetyemporium.com/09564

125 lb. ABC & Purple K and 150 lb. Regular Direct Pressure extinguishers utilize a 23 ft3 nitrogen cylinder with a “quick opening valve” to pressurize and completely discharge the agent cylinder. The compact size and 16" semi-pneumatic tires allow easy maneuvering and operation by one person, through narrow doorways and aisles.

https://www.amerexfire.eu/media/14256/Amerex-Wheeled-Extingu...

In terms of design, a distinction can be made between fire extinguishers under stored pressure (where gas is placed directly in the containers) and extinguishers with a cylinder (where gas is placed in a cylinder within the container).

https://pastor.hr/en/production/fire-extinguishers/powder

Slide 13
Tipos de Extintores:Tipos de Extintores: SEGUN LA FORMA DE IMPULSION :SEGUN LA FORMA DE IMPULSION:
Presión Directa o Interna.
Presión Indirecta o Exterior.
Por Reacción Química

https://www.slideshare.net/carlosparra201/extintores-3255259...

Dry powder extinguishing agent which is forced out of the extinguisher under pressure by a non flammable gas.
Contains 9.0Kg of High Performance Dry Chemical Powder

https://fireproductsdirect.com.au/9kg-dry-powder-fire-exting...

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DRY CHEMICAL - extinguishers are either stored-pressure models or cartridge-operated models. The stored-pressure models have a lever above the handle for operation. The cartridge-operated models require two steps: Depress the cartridge lever, and then squeeze the nozzle at the end of the hose. The dry chemicals leave a residue that must be cleaned up after use.

http://www.americanfireandlifesafety.com/different-types-of-...

As far as I can see, 'direct pressure' is also known as 'stored pressure'. I'm not an expert in fire extinguishers, though I had a couple for over 20 years that used to be serviced every year and emptied and refilled ('retimbrado') evey five years.

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Stored Pressure Fire Extinguishers
Stored pressure fire extinguishers contain the extinguisher agent (water, powder, foam, CO2, etc.) and the pressurising gas (dry air or oxygen-free nitrogen) in the same cylinder.

Cartridge operated Extinguishers
Cartridge operated extinguishers contain the extinguisher agent (water, foam, powder, CO2 etc.) in the main cylinder (this is not pressurised) and a seperate gas cartridge containing highly pressurised CO2. Once the handle is squeezed the CO2 cartridge is pierced releasing the pressure into the main cylinder.

https://www.safelincs.co.uk/guide-for-servicing-and-maintena...

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I've been reading about fire extinguisher mechanisms and I think 'stored pressure' is the right term. I'm sure it means that they're immediately ready for use by pressing a handle and lever. 'Cartridge operated extinguishers contain the expellant gas in a separate cartridge that is punctured prior to discharge, exposing the propellant to the extinguishing agent'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_extinguisher

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Note added at 1 day 19 hrs (2019-07-24 08:41:26 GMT) Post-grading
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Jane, thank you for the points. I have to go into town later and out of interest I'll ask the person who used to 'look after' my fire extinguishers what it could mean.
Note from asker:
Thanks Helen, this looks very tempting.
Thank you Helena. I used this but did add a note asking for clarification as well.
That would be great. I've moved on to scaffolding now and did pop over the road to ask some scaffolders to confirm some of the vocab!
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