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| | | | Marjolein Snippe 
Países Bajos
Local time: 17:20
Miembro 2012
inglés al neerlandés
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It did when I started, mostly by giving me more confidence.
(No degree in my case, but the IOL Diploma in Translation.)
| | | | Julian Holmes
Japón
Local time: 00:20
Miembro 2011
japonés al inglés
I don't have a 'degree in translation/interpretation' per se.
Also, I don't see how anyone can even begin to answer this question unless they have experienced being in two completely different situations during their career. Seems like a dopey poll question to me. 
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[Edited at 2016-03-09 00:40 GMT]
| | | | | Not having one hasn't held me back | Mar 8, 2016 |
I agree with Julian, of course: as I can't see over the "have/have not" fence, how can I evaluate the quaĺity of the grass over there?
But I find the question never occurs to direct clients or the smaller, specialised agencies that I favour as clients. They see my "CV" and read my emails they're happy to engage me. And some job posts have set a definite requirement for a degree and yet ended up giving me the job, convinced by the old "university of life" argument.
The... See more I agree with Julian, of course: as I can't see over the "have/have not" fence, how can I evaluate the quaĺity of the grass over there?
But I find the question never occurs to direct clients or the smaller, specialised agencies that I favour as clients. They see my "CV" and read my emails they're happy to engage me. And some job posts have set a definite requirement for a degree and yet ended up giving me the job, convinced by the old "university of life" argument.
The only effect is that it saves me the hassle of applying for EU tenders. That did use to upset me somewhat, but now I realise it's somewhat of a blessing. Others seem to waste mountains of time on them. ▲ Collapse
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| Fully with Julian | Mar 8, 2016 |
I have no idea since I've had a degree from the start.
| | | | | Another agree for Julian! | Mar 8, 2016 |
I don't know, my degree is in Economics!
| | | | Chié_JP
Japón
Local time: 00:20
Miembro 2013
inglés al japonés
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Market within Japan is highly saturated/populated and they mostly look for extensive working experience plus degree in engineering or science disciplines.
Even if you have a good degree in translation, it is likely they still do not trust it unless you spend many working (not learning) years in the designated discipline.
Since from JP to EN pair is the largest volume they only require you to have good native language skill.
My impression was that they fo... See more Market within Japan is highly saturated/populated and they mostly look for extensive working experience plus degree in engineering or science disciplines.
Even if you have a good degree in translation, it is likely they still do not trust it unless you spend many working (not learning) years in the designated discipline.
Since from JP to EN pair is the largest volume they only require you to have good native language skill.
My impression was that they focus on native language and country, not degree or education.
Maybe a degree is considered a good hat, but you primarily need a pair of shoes & gloves (native language and working experience) to walk and carry out work. Also knowing a friend counts!
I have seen some posts with note "translation education at training schools is a plus" for entry jobs but since college degree course in translation is rarely (or not) found in universities here (higher education started out using English material so they do not have concept of focusing on translation. Being able to learn literally meant being able to read western languages. ), it is not well known qualification and never know if it works to have one. If the course also provide you a friend who order work it would be helpful but I do not know if they come to recruit or order for a job to college course. ▲ Collapse
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My degrees are in law/French language and politics, biology/cognitive neuroscience and psychology, almost anything but translation. However, they are sufficient to convince as the first one was done in the UK, but the other two in France.
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inkweaver
Alemania
Local time: 17:20
francés al alemán
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| I wouldn't know... | Mar 8, 2016 |
Since I haven't got one.
I embarked on an MA in Translation a few years ago but never got to finish it for personal reasons. To be quite honest, from what I can tell from the first terms I must say that I don't think it would have improved my translation skills, therefore I didn't regret the fact that I had to give it up. For me, the 'university of life', as Sheila put it, has certainly been more valuable. My regular clients seem to agree.
| | | | Ty Kendall
Reino Unido
Local time: 16:20
hebreo al inglés
| Paul Lambert
Suecia
Local time: 17:20
Miembro 2006
sueco al inglés
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| No, and I understand why. | Mar 8, 2016 |
Most of my clients have once been freelance translators themselves. Some have degrees and others not, but those I have got to know well over the years all have very similar experiences in the business generally.
Frankly, I see a degree as a negative. Too many young hot-shots think they can sit on their academic laurels and get away with producing rubbish. Those who had to prove themselves in the school of life and overcome the disadvantage of not having degrees tend to have develope... See more Most of my clients have once been freelance translators themselves. Some have degrees and others not, but those I have got to know well over the years all have very similar experiences in the business generally.
Frankly, I see a degree as a negative. Too many young hot-shots think they can sit on their academic laurels and get away with producing rubbish. Those who had to prove themselves in the school of life and overcome the disadvantage of not having degrees tend to have developed the habits necessary to maintain good quality work and to improve.
Even as someone who went to university, albeit not to study translation, I must admit that I find that university tends to make people stupid. I mean that literally. Young people come out with lots of *knowledge* in their heads, but no wisdom and they end up being detached from reality (check out the English monolingual forum some time to see some examples). They come out of university *less* able to cope with reality, not better able.
I would much rather hire someone without the intellectual baggage, and I find most of my clients feel the same way.
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| | | | Parrot
España
Local time: 17:20
español al inglés
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| I've been around longer than the degree | Mar 8, 2016 |
... so I can understand so many reasons behind the "nos". I got mine halfway, and it wasn't undergrad either. That's another long story, but I did get curious enough to want to look at the issues from a classroom perspective.
The good clients were always around. So were the good rates. The market just got bigger with all sorts, and every newcomer (translators and clients alike) had their own learning curve.
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Teresa Borges wrote:
I don't know, my degree is in Economics!
Mine either.
Though I also have a certificate in translation, it's not a degree, of course. But I feel like it may be helpful when a "credential required" job post comes up here. I guess the poll idea is something about that, isn't it?
| | | | David Earl
Estados Unidos
Local time: 09:20
alemán al inglés
| Depends on approach | Mar 8, 2016 |
My experience in Northern Germany is that direct, major customers prefer seeing a degree in the area of specialization (translation in this case). Having contacts may, or may not help, with such preferences/perceptions of certifications, especially in a corporate environment. For example, corporate decisions may trump the experience of the on-site department/management.
While agencies may like seeing a degree in translation, they tend to be more appreciative of experience and/or deg... See more My experience in Northern Germany is that direct, major customers prefer seeing a degree in the area of specialization (translation in this case). Having contacts may, or may not help, with such preferences/perceptions of certifications, especially in a corporate environment. For example, corporate decisions may trump the experience of the on-site department/management.
While agencies may like seeing a degree in translation, they tend to be more appreciative of experience and/or degrees in the field of the subject material(s) (IT, business or medicine, rather than translation/language).
My point with these two generalizations is that the response depends on the individual. Ultimately, inexperienced people simply have: to choose one road, to explore that road while determining their individual needs and, ultimately, to trust that there are "many roads to Rome".
David. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Ricki Farn
Alemania
Local time: 17:20
inglés al alemán
| Maybe it depends on what you want to translate? | Mar 8, 2016 |
I have a degree in Computing, and I translate IT texts. That works fine. If I wanted to translate novels, or general "creative" marketing, maybe people would not want me because they'd feel my language side was inadequate? Don't know, not going to try.
The only person I know who translates novels has a degree in German language and literature, but not in translation. We have the same job in the sense that a penguin and a flamingo are both birds (and I'm not the one that can fly).
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