Mar 28, 2006 13:15
19 yrs ago
Chinese汉语 term

门外汉/外行人- Greenhorn

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门外汉 = 外行人= Greenhorn. Any better suggestion?

Discussion

Last Hermit Mar 28, 2006:
You'd better provide an actual context. No contexts, no clue.

Proposed translations

3小时
Selected

How many you want? Pick the one that best fits your bill.

But not necessarily all applicable. I am too lazy to single them out for you though.

Cited from New Oxford Thesaurus English:

greenhorn

?noun
(N. Amer. informal) as a greenhorn he was bound to make a few mistakes
NOVICE, beginner, starter, tyro, neophyte, new recruit, raw recruit, fledgling, new boy/girl, novitiate; trainee, learner, student, pupil, probationer; N. Amer. tenderfoot; informal rookie, new kid (on the block), newie, newbie; N. Amer. informal punk.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Paul Hirsh : These tend to stress subject's inexperience rather than his outsiderliness. Would you translate these back into Chinese with the source term?
6分钟
neutral anastasia t (X) : i understand your intentions but i agree with monxmood
39分钟
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+5
9分钟

layman

layman

:)
Peer comment(s):

agree anastasia t (X)
14分钟
thanks
agree Ray Luo
1小时
thanks
agree Naikei Wong
5小时
thanks
agree Twinpens (X)
7小时
thanks
agree Angus Woo : I think layperson might be better, politically correct.
1天 11小时
thanks
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+1
21分钟

maverick

but greenhorn is nice too

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Note added at 22 mins (2006-03-28 13:38:12 GMT)
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means an outsider who usurps a position inside
Peer comment(s):

agree anastasia t (X) : agree that greenhorn is nice
2分钟
thanks, we both agree with the asker!
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29分钟

green hand

Please try this, I think this one is better, though greenhorn refers to a simpleton; an inexperienced person.
Peer comment(s):

neutral IC -- : Sorry, I have thought of this...but it has another meaning : 生手 inwhich rendering a sense of someone just get inside...not a total outlier/stranger/layman...
1小时
neutral anastasia t (X) : i agree with icg
3小时
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+2
20分钟

layman/stranger/outlier/laity

layman/stranger/outlier/laity

according to 5 different dictionaries...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-03-28 15:22:36 GMT)
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I am a total stranger to this!

I am a total layman to this!

I am a total outlier to this!

I am a total laity to this!


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Note added at 5 hrs (2006-03-28 18:26:44 GMT)
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简明汉英词典
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门外汉 layman stranger

高级汉语词典 常用词组
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门外汉 ménwàihàn [layman] 外行人


汉英航海大词典
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门外汉 outlier


汉英化学大词典
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门外汉 laity


汉英经贸大词典
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门外汉 outlier
Peer comment(s):

agree CHEN-Ling
1小时
Thank you!
neutral Paul Hirsh : laity is an uncountable term for a class of people and does not refer to a single person. It cannot be used with the indef article like this.
3小时
Thank you for your comment monxmood! Exactly! With the indef article like this, one can give the right answer difficultely. Reason I listed them all!! Asker can choose what he likes... Now I have listed all words used different categories.
neutral anastasia t (X) : i agree with monxmood
3小时
Thank you for your comment, anastasia! With the indef article like this, one can give the right answer difficultely. Reason I listed them all!! Asker can choose what he likes... Now I have listed all words used different categories.
agree Naikei Wong : laymen / layman
5小时
Thank you!!
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